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Old 02-25-2005, 09:39   #1
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Default Speed Within Reach web site missing.

Just tried to access www.speedwithinreach.com and was denied. Any info on what the deal might be?
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I get this message:
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Just tried to access www.speedwithinreach.com and was denied. Any info on what the deal might be?


Relax Juice..........its still winter, you have plenty of time to get your car done.
Here is a better site. http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/NSX/
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Good morning Josh,

Fixed. Been very actively working on some things. Overall, I've had 99.9% uptime and have been very pleased.

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Relax Juice..........its still winter, you have plenty of time to get your car done.
Here is a better site. http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/NSX/


Har, har. And your wrong, the snow is starting to melt!
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Default Re: Speed Within Reach web site missing.

Josh,

The race on, whose car will be ready first, yours or mine? Tim
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Looks like John is moving on. http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47739
and SWR has been *SUSPENDED* here on prime.

Hope your not waiting on any parts, the way things are going for them, your car might be laid up for another summer.
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Looks like John is moving on. http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47739
and SWR has been *SUSPENDED* here on prime.

Hope your not waiting on any parts, the way things are going for them, your car might be laid up for another summer.


No! Waiting to get my money back!
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Please clearify *SUSPENDED*

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Looks like John is moving on. http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47739
and SWR has been *SUSPENDED* here on prime.

Hope your not waiting on any parts, the way things are going for them, your car might be laid up for another summer.
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Lud would have to clearify it.
Just look at his avatar.

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Default Re: Speed Within Reach web site missing.

I would be interested on the explanation for 'suspended' as well. My guess as to why it was necessary would be that many, if not most, of the posts under that particular handle were authored by John..... who now no longer wishes to be associated with that particular vendor name.
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My guess as to why it was necessary would be that many, if not most, of the posts under that particular handle were authored by John..... who now no longer wishes to be associated with that particular vendor name.


Or...... that particular vendor no longer wishes to be associated with John.
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Default Re: Speed Within Reach web site missing.

Hey Jason -
We met at XPO. I was the third guy with Mike and John. Mike requested a temporary "lock-down" because of a password breech. Thus why the website is also locked down for the moment.
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Whatever the reason - bad for business and reputation...

I hope it gets resolved.


Todd, is the new shop officially open?
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We met at XPO. I was the third guy with Mike and John. Mike requested a temporary "lock-down" because of a password breech. Thus why the website is also locked down for the moment.


Yeah......... ok...
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Todd, is the new shop officially open?[/QUOTE]


Warren, the shop officially opened March 5. Website will be up late in the week.
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Default Re: Speed Within Reach web site missing.

as far as I know John only handles the customer service, all order and payment were forward to SWR. John have been offering his customer service for free
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Juice, did you get your refund? Mike owes me for a refund on comptech headers too. Just curious if you got your refund?

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Juice, did you get your refund? Mike owes me for a refund on comptech headers too. Just curious if you got your refund?

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No. I guess this would be the third time my check got lost in the mail.
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Ahhh, this would be my 2nd time. First, his "secretary" didn't put the zip code on the envelope. Second, the check just hasn't found its way to Texas yet. My story sounds eerily familiar as yours. I left him a message last night on his cell and told him he better wire me the money or I'll be posting on every forum his lack of integrity.
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... I left him a message last night on his cell and told him he better wire me the money or I'll be posting on every forum his lack of integrity.


It looks like you've already started.
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Mike and I spoke this am. Looks like he is making right of the situation by wiring amount of refund. We'll see.....
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Juice, Mike wired me the cash yesterday. Everything is squared away. He made everything cool. Hopefully they can get their website up and running soon.
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You know, the answer to what's going on still hasn't been promulgated...is this the $64k question or what
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You know, the answer to what's going on still hasn't been promulgated...is this the $64k question or what


I agree what is the story here?!?
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I won't charge you that much for the answer! But here it goes.

Speed Within Reach is NOT out of business! Just the website is down.

SWR is owned by Michael in Clearwater, FL. A customer, John, contacted Michael last year about NSX products that he wanted comming in from Japan from Route-KS. After numerous conversations, Mike offered John the parts at cost in turn to put a website together for SWR. Over time John offered to handle the on-line sales for Michael and continued receiving parts at cost for his work. About 3 weeks ago there was a falling out between Michael and John. Since John was controlling the website and online-orders, he decided to shut down SWR's link to the outside world.

SO, I decided to help Michael out. Since I purchase NSX products for my retail speed shop, 2NR Werks, through SWR, I still need products on a local level. Michael and I both agreed to bring all the SWR inventory into my speed shop.

At the moment my designer is finishing up on the www.2NRWERKS.net website which will include ALL of SWR's NSX products. Also, I cater to RSX and S2000 customers, so there will be a varitey of JDM, USDM and OE based parts available on-line very soon. We also are capturing video footage and sound clips to help you decide on aero products and exhaust purchases.

If you need to place an order with SWR, please call 727-504-9895. You can also email me at sales@2nrwerks.net or call 813-901-VTEC.

Mike will announce the new website in the next week on Prime.
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Thank you..
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Makes sense now....thanks
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I won't charge you that much for the answer! But here it goes.

Speed Within Reach is NOT out of business! Just the website is down.

SWR is owned by Michael in Clearwater, FL. A customer, John, contacted Michael last year about NSX products that he wanted comming in from Japan from Route-KS. After numerous conversations, Mike offered John the parts at cost in turn to put a website together for SWR. Over time John offered to handle the on-line sales for Michael and continued receiving parts at cost for his work. About 3 weeks ago there was a falling out between Michael and John. Since John was controlling the website and online-orders, he decided to shut down SWR's link to the outside world.

SO, I decided to help Michael out. Since I purchase NSX products for my retail speed shop, 2NR Werks, through SWR, I still need products on a local level. Michael and I both agreed to bring all the SWR inventory into my speed shop.

At the moment my designer is finishing up on the www.2NRWERKS.net website which will include ALL of SWR's NSX products. Also, I cater to RSX and S2000 customers, so there will be a varitey of JDM, USDM and OE based parts available on-line very soon. We also are capturing video footage and sound clips to help you decide on aero products and exhaust purchases.

If you need to place an order with SWR, please call 727-504-9895. You can also email me at sales@2nrwerks.net or call 813-901-VTEC.

Mike will announce the new website in the next week on Prime.





Todd, that is some pretty good spin you came up with on Michael's behalf. That’s a real gem. Probably does not even require a shred of proof to support.

As strangely amusing as your reply was to read thou, I myself would rather read postings based more on FACT than fiction being this is still a car enthusiast forum. If anyone is interested- I would be more than happy to provide a better, more extensive revision of events past this post- this time backed up with a timeline, invoices, written documentation, circumstantial evidence, sworn official statements, cellular phone records, orders, e-mails, SWR customer testimonials, etc... And we can open everything up right here on this NSXPRIME thread today since you obviously have indirectly indicated to me above (that’s what I got out of it anyway) you may wish to discuss this topic further, and in more detail, in the facility of a public internet forum.



If that is the case and you wish to instigate a discussion with me online by posting such senseless BS at Michael’s request- my recommendation is we can all pursue this further online by electing an independent arbiter (Lud, NSX community member or perhaps you may prefer a sworn police officer to oversee everything and collect documentation from all sides before we get started to ensure everything alleged is on the up and up) or civilly.

I myself have before me lots of paperwork here which I believe amply supports both my own perspectives, positions, and allegations as it relates to SWR, as well as my own personal product orders with Michael- including wire transfer confirmation and check slips for right around $17,000 in cash which was sent from a 1st Technology Credit Union in Bellevue, WA to a Michael Constantinides in Clearwater FL over the last year for my own product; which I have here supporting documentation to indicate was immediately misappropriated I might add.

However, Todd, before we opt to all venture down that path and balloon this thread out of proportion only to your own detriment so far as I can see... a suggestion (and believe me this is the best damn advice your doing to get from anyone here on NSXPRIME) would be to shut your mouth while you’re ahead, and save all that energy and spin for someone other than the NSX Community. I would imagine there are after all more important people out there more deserving of your attention at this juncture than potential customers on NSXPRIME…

For example your appointed Federal Bankruptcy Trustee in FL whom is currently overseeing your Bankruptcy filing for your recently defunct Eastern Printing Services Company in Dunbar, FL- and whom by my recent discovery a few weeks back, and your own admission/statements you are currently in the process of attempting to criminally defraud to the tune of about $25,000 - $50,000 in cash by withholding financial assets and submitting false affidavits in order to illegitimately garner funds for your newest business venture, 2NRWERKS, per your desired role as an NSX specialty parts & services vendor.




Now moving on to the pressing 64K question everyone is asking (the matter that relates directly to my own SWR sales experience) - specifically I would imagine me quitting, the customer complaints, inventory, the son Michael, his father Nick at Eagle Coffee in Baltimore, SWR, and the only thing I care about which is my hard programming work, time, and rather significant business expenses for which I was promised but * never * reimbursed for in anyway, shape, or form.

To address this, I must first say that I have previously posted my own position earlier and maintain it. Feel free to re-read it if you like to your hearts content. It was in the cleanest demeanor possible given the aggravating circumstances at the time. I could have left it at that and not expanded further. Read into it whatever you want the result is still the same- I no longer wish to be associated with SWR, and have cut my personal losses of both time and money dealing with these two guys in FL, and now move forward knowing that in the future I can sleep well knowing that these two will be trading under their own names in the realm of retail sales and not mine - which is probably why Eddie walked out half way through NSXPO necessitating the early departure as I should have been savvy enough to do as well.

Todd, the consensus here by all accounts is that your above spin on Michael's behalf would be at the bare minimum hearsay... as your not in a position to know anything about any verbal agreements between myself or Michael... as my flight and Eddie's flight to BWI for NSXPO in October was essentially the first time any of us had ever met you short of a few quick calls in regards to your brochure printing work. My early business negotiations with Michael - way back in the beginning - took place last spring when I flew to his house to meet with him- and you were definitely not in attendance for those core discussions nor purview to them.

My position has always been that I absolutely had no such verbal agreement with Michael (parts discounts for compensation) as your eluding to, and I even made a point to bring this matter up to himself and his parents attention several times- being I knew it to be no more than a blatant cover story he came up with at a later date to justify shorting me on that web site after I indicated my desire many, many, months ago to quit contributing my time to SWR.

This dumb story he’s selling doesn't even make any sense to anyone other than him so it really doesn’t even matter- Of course, of course... I worked all hours of the day and night, took phone calls, and essentially ran the day-to-day business of an enterprise that wasn’t mine for a year profit free so I could save a few percent off my Zero Force body kit which never materialized anyway?

Ugh... you know you two have nerve... how about this? I have a better gist of what happened to offer for those whom may be curious- Michael trades on John’s name and strings him out with no intention of ever compensating him nor reimbursing him for expenses and time, because he knows that John is just the type of person that is nice enough to work hard, has some cash to pay to deliver product when Michael fails to, and overall buy his on-going BS.

You know for almost a full year he strung me out with the notion that I would eventually receive a written compensatory agreement as asked for to make me whole for my efforts past and future, I never did receive it. On one memorable occasion, I called 25 days in a single day in an attempt to obtain it from him. Like customer’s refunds “it was in the mail”.

The only thing I ever got was his voice mail, requests for more wired money, and BS, and after I hung up his customers calling me at all hours to complain about there dealings with Michael. Need examples? Do you really want me to go there? Oh please let’s go there. Come on? You even said yourself on several occasions the situation was absurd.

IMHO when Michael finally started to take customers money and not send them product for which they have paid, that is the line whereas John says enough is enough and leaves. If I were to speculate as to what was really going on- he probably was using it to pay for the criminal defense of his girlfriend, whom has a pending felony for conspiracy to distribute cocaine.

You know Todd, while I would enjoy to further consume my evening reflecting upon my own personal SWR sales experiences with Michael (as many of his customers whom I was unable to insulate from his BS also most surely do) as opposed to playing GT4, the FACT is that one of the primary reasons for my own order being placed at the time was more at Michael's behest than my own, as he felt he needed my order to complete his opening order with Kawagen to start his business, and I had interest in obtaining said parts, so it seemed to me a mutually beneficial arrangement for which at the time I understood to be a partnership arrangement per our early discussions in FL.

In the end, the results speak for themselves- I paid full price 690,000 yen for (1) Zero Force kit which was ordered in March and arrived in late October just days before NSXPO (8 months for SWR FL procurement service to come through)- damaged, missing parts, and on the wrong coast.. To this day, I count myself lucky having received anything at all as many customers have paid for product from Michael and not received it. I would post a receipt confirming this but I, like the other 20 customers of his have never received one to wonder how April 15th is shaping up.

If all of this rant is just too complicated to grasp for Michael, I will be happy to simplify it to the bare bones so that even he might understand the basic John Hudak rational... no pay = no web site design. I know Michael will never understand this logic given he's probably never worked a hard day in his life, but nothing in life is free. I am not his Rich Dad, and I am not here to continue to take it in the corn hole from Michael like he clearly does.

In closing, and as a strange consequence, in the absence of this formal written agreement, I can also choose with whom I wish to freely contribute my efforts, and whom is deserving of my excess time outside of my core hours here at Microsoft. That’s most definitely not either of you.
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Talk about DRAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah a war, right John. Just as you stated, YOU don't know the facts. We did'nt like your drama when you were with SWR, thats why you are not with SWR now. Please keep you day job and get off this forum.

I don't know how you got back on here after being banned from Prime. I think the admin should be informed.

I'll tell you what, how about I buy back the Zero Force kit for what you paid and I will pay Michael for the shipping to Washington which you still owe him. And also after taking inventory, I noticed there were some missing Taitec headers, Kawagen exhaust and accesssories. Those are property of SWR, and in my book that is called stealing.

John, you know how to get in touch with me, I suggest you make an effort to come clean before this gets out of control.

P.S. We would'nt want your NSX insurance fraud to re-surface now would we.
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John, I have never met you so I do not pretend to know anything about what is going on behind the scenes with you and Mike but give me a second or two to interject some left field perspective.

1: From what I have understood, from both posts here in this thread, the essence of Todd's explanation is still true, he did not call you out he simply stated boiled down facts. You have expounded on these facts but the essence is still true.

2: Things have gone south for you and Mike and therein lies the problem. Todd may have not had every single little fact but at least he attempted to explain the situation to the people of this thread who have been waiting patiently for an explanation. From the 3 or so threads floating around this entire forum I have not been able to find your excuse for shutting the site down until just now.

3.I know and understand your anger at the situation. I have been a multimedia designer since the start of the profession. I have had many deadbeat clients in my day and I have done many barter deals for my services and 2nrwerks happens to be one of them.

If you had any hopes of compensation from Mike, it would seem logical and prudent to me to keep his one source of supplemental income active. Shutting down the site proves that you are in control of it, but little else. Mike cannot move product through SWR.com now, therefore, he can not compensate you with the sales from it if he were so inclined.

I can not speak of Mike's intentions in this matter, but it would seem more professional to keep the site up and be viligant with your communications to him rather than shutting a site down making you look mean, vindictive and childish.

I say that last line because a very respected and honored internet guru once had a long conversation with me about this very same scenario. I wanted so bad to destroy this one website and he sat me down and told me how unprofessional it is going to seem to the rest of my peers and the local internet community. It was going to hurt me in the long run and diminish my chances at landing more clients. And sadly, it is true. You dont seem anymore righteous in the eyes of people, you just seem vengeful and angry.

Who wants to do business with some who is going to destroy their property if something goes wrong. Wether or not you made it or not, the website is still the property of SWR (even though you hijacked it through network solutions(yeah, that is not a rush job....who is kjdqdqfvv@whoisprivacyprotect.com anyway. Having the administrative passwords to url and DNS registrations has its perks doesnt it?) and if Mike has anything contractual to the fact that you made the site for him in return for such and such product, he now has recourse againt you. I dont know if Mike is a stand up guy or not. But both you guys need to get your act together if you want to salvage anything that resembles a business reputation.

4. Throwing Mike and Todd under the bus is not going to solve anything. All it did is hurt his ability to repair the situation. Showing the ugly side of your dealings with him only sheds light on your constitution as a partner with him.

I do not take this situation lightly, I understand your point of view more than most would simply because of my shared career in the profession. The miniscule information i have been given leads me to believe a little of both sides of the story. It is clear you and Mike have legit beef.

Todd was acting in the interest of his new company and that of this thread. He has a deal with Mike and he should be allowed to share his knowledge in appropriate forums (such as this).

The clever and more professional recourses you had with Mike may have passed you by with your previous post. It would seem prudent that you and Mike need to share a long honest conversation with each other and keep garbage like this off the forums.

I dont know you and I am not trying to call you out either. I am new to this site but not this scenario. This situations seems ridiculous and it warrants some comment. Flame me if you want, but the reply you gave seems overly destructive and too malicious to be productive at all.
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Thank you all for joining us on Judge Judy

First let me state that I do not know either party personally nor had done any business with them, but after all that fuss, IMHO, I would not be inclinde to deal with either party. I think in order for me to deal with Todd is COD, I'll pay when it is at my door and after inspection. This type of publicity is not good for either side.

I do not know the story nor understand the circumstances between them, but John, if you have a case, take Michael to court, and Todd, I wish you well, hope you and Mike (SWR) can proof yourselves to us through time. once again.

I do believe in 2nd chance, but it must be earn twice as hard, and back up by some exceptional Customer's Service.

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Yeah a war, right John. Just as you stated, YOU don't know the facts.


Ok. I am not a jury?


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We did'nt like your drama when you were with SWR, thats why you are not with SWR now. Please keep you day job and get off this forum.


So I'll take all that as you wish to discuss this further? Both you and your new partner Rob here sure seem to have loads of insight for me for two guys that only "carries Michael's SWR products" or whatever the spin is your using for forum damage control here so you can hopefully off or benefit from that excess $40,000 in inventory of Kawagen and Taitec parts his Dad was sitting on in MD to help recoup his impending $90,000 financial loss for the funds he fronted to his son to start SWR which in turn were squandered selfishly.

In any case, for someone that carry's such a negative reputation of the person whom Michael was previously more than elated to receive services from for the better part of a year, this would laudably come as a shocking change in perspective even up to the point whereas I was being pleaded with at the Nth hour by Michael to "work things out".


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I don't know how you got back on here after being banned from Prime. I think the admin should be informed.


I didn't realize I had ever left nor that there was any issue with my own account. However, if there is any concern with Lud, NSXCA, or the other vendors or moderators I would be more than happy to work with them directly and provide all documentation. As I recall most of them have received personal checks with my name on the top of it- not SWR's unless Lud finally received his first check from FL for your banner ad there on the bottom for which I refused to pay.


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I'll tell you what, how about I buy back the Zero Force kit for what you paid and I will pay Michael for the shipping to Washington which you still owe him. And also after taking inventory, I noticed there were some missing Taitec headers, Kawagen exhaust and accessories. Those are property of SWR, and in my book that is called stealing.


I am unsure how you purchasing back Michael's product solves any of the issues for which I had addressed. Regardless, this is a mute point- almost as if I would care to experience the SWR/2NRWERKS refund process like your other customers on this thread at this time. Frankly, I'd take my chances on the For Sale section if push came to shove thank you very much- but a nice gesture regardless. It also sounds like new allegations have arisen herein. Nothing my paperwork can't clear up. Whatever, I am glad to hear you have finally decided to inventory JDM product prior to sending it to customers. They really hate those cracked wings and diffusers as we all know your familiar with.


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John, you know how to get in touch with me, I suggest you make an effort to come clean before this gets out of control.


I wouldn't recommend waiting by the phone. If you would like to get in touch with my attorney, I can publish information to you so you can attempt to further make false statements in a written context and work towards an added perjury charge in the context of a civil trial.


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P.S. We wouldn’t want your NSX insurance fraud to re-surface now would we.


Another interesting allegation clearly rooted in significant distortions of truth most likely relating to another fantastic upstanding community member from which both I, a few other members, and Mark at Dali have some experience.

I am sure we'll all be anxiously awaiting your paperwork and revelation of facts to back this up. To the best of my knowledge, not counting minor traffic infractions, and unless I am another victim of ID theft I have a 100% clean criminal record in all 50 states. If anyone requires proof of this, I will willingly provide it as I have been required to do for government projects in the past.

At which time you can furnish us all with your enlightening revelations of previous improprieties on my behalf, I anxiously encourage you to post it right here. Until then, keep posting all this BS up as I have found your added responses to be nothing short of delightfully entertaining.


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Blah, Blah, Blah...


I don't know you, and we have never met nor talked before. You must be the new naive front guy. I wish you the very best. Apparently he laid off 30 of his last employees without notice.

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Yep you are right, I dont know you but I feel I have enough information now about how you do "business" to make some pretty rock solid judgements.

Say what you want about what Todd has chosen to post here trying to explain the SWR situation, at least he did not post anything about your personal life or personally attack you. Everything you say about these two people could be 100% true but they have ZERO bearing on the situation at hand. What right do you have to discuss ther personal matters of anyone but yourself. The rest of this website knowing about how Mike got the business started and Todd's past business status does NOTHING but make you look like an idiot, not so much unlike a drunken co-worker who spills the beans about all the dirty laundry at the Christmas Party.

Your actions are poor IMHO, but freakishly reminiscent of myself several years ago. Like I said, I see your point to a degree but not to the point of trying destroy someone's business.

If "blah blah blah" is all you have in retort to my suggestions and comment then I have done my duty. Everything I wrote was garnered from the two posts I read here last night and I assume anybody with a functioning Cerebral Cortex can draw the same conclusions. I knew nothing about you until last night and even if what you say is 100% true or not you should have at least conducted yourself like professional.

Explain and point out the errors in Todd's post all you want but dont cross the line into libel by trying to decimate thier character
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Boy this thread has wings I am waiting to see them start comparing the size of there penises.
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Actualy this is real life!Amazing ,,better than Americas' top model.I have dealt with small bussiness that come and go.What seperates the drama from routine ch 11 or simply packing it in,is the law,and honor.So my litle advice is to settle whatever via proper legal channels(I know lawyers are expensive) but a good one can save you $ in the end.So I know how easy it is to air out the laundry on prime but it does become public domain,and a savy opponent might accuse you both of slander.But there is some good stuff here;Rich dad,shady practices ie debt shifting,and drugs,,This thread tops all Dali threads!
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Actualy this is real life!... there is some good stuff here;Rich dad,shady practices ie debt shifting,and drugs,,This thread tops all Dali threads!


It's even better than those ebay NSX scams and Nigerian e-mails. I have my popcorn and at my side.
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This thread tops all Dali threads!


If you read the last post by John, about 3/4 of the way down, you will see Mark at Dali's name. How is it he is always in the middle of the poop!
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my intent if it was unclear is to make note of a prior thread or topic which stirs up much heated and personal debate as well as making for some good reading
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